Comments on: How to Pry the Truth out of Congressmen http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/ Author James Bovard Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:56:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Zardo http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3824 Zardo Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:26:09 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3824 Ugly Americans? Why not just... Barbericans. Ugly Americans? Why not just… Barbericans.

]]> By: Tom Blanton http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3815 Tom Blanton Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:43:36 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3815 This waterboarding thing sounds like big fun. Republicrat frat boys should find it especially refreshing when their feet are held to the fire. I've decided to revoke my proposal to require candidates in the 2008 presidential debates to have lie detectors with an on-screen readout scroll. I now propose that the 2008 debates should be one big waterboarding party. Throw in some Surftones or Ventures as the candidates "hang ten" and you'd have some groovy entertainment. Add a wet t-shirt contest for prospective first ladies to really juice things up. Surf's up, dude! Maybe for the VP debate, moderators could pitch softballs at a target to dunk the clown. This waterboarding thing sounds like big fun. Republicrat frat boys should find it especially refreshing when their feet are held to the fire.

I’ve decided to revoke my proposal to require candidates in the 2008 presidential debates to have lie detectors with an on-screen readout scroll. I now propose that the 2008 debates should be one big waterboarding party. Throw in some Surftones or Ventures as the candidates “hang ten” and you’d have some groovy entertainment.

Add a wet t-shirt contest for prospective first ladies to really juice things up. Surf’s up, dude!

Maybe for the VP debate, moderators could pitch softballs at a target to dunk the clown.

]]> By: Mario http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3806 Mario Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:24:31 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3806 DITTO TO ALL OF YOU. DO WE DO THIS BEFORE OR AFTER WE SET THEM ALL FOR TRIAL IN A WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL, ALONG WITH MAYBE OLMERT, WHO NOW ADMITS THAT THE RESPONSIBIKLITY FOR THE INVASION OF LEBANON WAS HIS. DITTO TO ALL OF YOU. DO WE DO THIS BEFORE OR AFTER WE SET THEM ALL FOR TRIAL IN A WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL, ALONG WITH MAYBE OLMERT, WHO NOW ADMITS THAT THE RESPONSIBIKLITY FOR THE INVASION OF LEBANON WAS HIS.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3777 Jim Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:39:37 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3777 No grammarcheckers in Finnish software, eh? No grammarcheckers in Finnish software, eh?

]]> By: Risto http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3776 Risto Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:45:38 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3776 Deucland Deutchland Über alles Today USA in a one Fucking NAZIREICH. Enforcing "freedom and democracy" and American values with open state Terrorism like we have seen in Lebanon and hidden Economical warfare like Cuban's know by 46 years within their skins. Your Führer has told to everyone he's new born cristian man. When i look what YOUR FÜHRER has accomplished after winning two wotercounting after losing both elections he truly looks more like true SATAN WORSHIPPER AND MURDERER than enything else. One positive thing is that the true face of Yankee NAZIREICH is now plain to see everyone who can look at world with open eyes. Before Bush,Cheney and Rowe became FÜHRER'S of AMERICAN NAZIREICH by stealing two elections i was against the capital punishment. Now i see things differently. Even holy bible says following. If you forgive wrongdoings of a goddles person in a land of justice he will commit crimes and injusctices. If we want a world to be safe place for our children where they can live good and decent lifes, it's going to be absofuckinglutely impossible to accomplish that as long as truly ungodly evildoers as Bushes Nazijunta of evildoers, murderers and rapist whose only true religion is money live among us. The sooner the world get's rid of selfrighteus Yankee Nazireich the better future will be for generations not yet born. Fortunately I am living in scandinavia. It's safe to live here because my country don't belong to Nato. And we haven't participated "peacekeeping" operations like bringing "freedom and democracy" to Iraq. So poor people in third world have no reasons to hate us. Deucland Deutchland Über alles
Today USA in a one Fucking NAZIREICH.
Enforcing “freedom and democracy” and American values with open state Terrorism like we have seen in Lebanon and hidden Economical warfare like Cuban’s know by 46 years within their skins. Your Führer has told to everyone he’s new born cristian man. When i look what YOUR FÜHRER has accomplished after winning two wotercounting after losing both elections he truly looks more like true SATAN WORSHIPPER AND MURDERER than enything else. One positive thing is that the true face of Yankee NAZIREICH is now plain to see everyone who can look at world with open eyes. Before Bush,Cheney and Rowe became FÜHRER’S of AMERICAN NAZIREICH by stealing two elections i was against the capital punishment.
Now i see things differently. Even holy bible says following. If you forgive wrongdoings of a goddles person in a land of justice he will commit crimes and injusctices. If we want a world to be safe place for our children where they can live good and decent lifes, it’s going to be absofuckinglutely impossible to accomplish that as long as truly ungodly evildoers as Bushes Nazijunta of evildoers, murderers and rapist whose only true religion is money live among us.
The sooner the world get’s rid of selfrighteus Yankee Nazireich the better future will be for generations not yet born. Fortunately I am living in scandinavia. It’s safe to live here because my country don’t belong to Nato. And we haven’t participated “peacekeeping” operations like bringing “freedom and democracy” to Iraq. So poor people in third world have no reasons to hate us.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3775 Jim Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:21:22 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3775 Vaughn - perhaps Gonzales's goal for day to day policy is "Plausible Deniability." The analogy to mafia lawyers may be apt - but I suspect that some mafia lawyers are a helluva lot sharper than Gonzales. On the other hand, Bush hires for loyalty, not brains. Vaughn - perhaps Gonzales’s goal for day to day policy is “Plausible Deniability.”

The analogy to mafia lawyers may be apt - but I suspect that some mafia lawyers are a helluva lot sharper than Gonzales.

On the other hand, Bush hires for loyalty, not brains.

]]> By: Vaughn http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3774 Vaughn Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:14:04 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3774 Mr. Bovard, Regarding your comment about AG Gonzales and his oath of office - a snippet from an article this weekend about Richard Armitage and his role in the Valarie Plame matter caught my eye. "Taft asked if Gonzales wanted to know the details. The president's lawyer, playing the case by the book, said no, and Taft told him nothing more." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14533384/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098 This event predates his appointment as AG - but certainly provides an insight into his character (or lack thereof). "by the book" - must be the same book those mafia lawyers use! Mr. Bovard,

Regarding your comment about AG Gonzales and his oath of office - a snippet from an article this weekend about Richard Armitage and his role in the Valarie Plame matter caught my eye.

“Taft asked if Gonzales wanted to know the details. The president’s lawyer, playing the case by the book, said no, and Taft told him nothing more.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14533384/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098

This event predates his appointment as AG - but certainly provides an insight into his character (or lack thereof).

“by the book” - must be the same book those mafia lawyers use!

]]> By: M. Riley http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3773 M. Riley Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:55:30 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3773 I got one better. All alleged terrorist plots or plotters that are charged or under investigation that are found to be either without foundation, 99% of them in all probability, will be released, apologised to by the government officials that crowed the most about their arrests or investigation. That is before the officials are arrested and sent to prison for the same terms that they would have sent the alledged terrorist plotters. This would of course include the top officials as well as all the sundry other officials or pundits that love to try to out lie each other to make the best press and worst case for the alledged plotters. This of course would exempt "real" plots where there actually is evidence and not just braggers, or big talkers and dreamers. BTW if we arrested all the braggers, big talkers and dreamers we would already eliminate all the bad leaders of the present politicians and pundits. I got one better. All alleged terrorist plots or plotters that are charged or under investigation that are found to be either without foundation, 99% of them in all probability, will be released, apologised to by the government officials that crowed the most about their arrests or investigation. That is before the officials are arrested and sent to prison for the same terms that they would have sent the alledged terrorist plotters. This would of course include the top officials as well as all the sundry other officials or pundits that love to try to out lie each other to make the best press and worst case for the alledged plotters. This of course would exempt “real” plots where there actually is evidence and not just braggers, or big talkers and dreamers. BTW if we arrested all the braggers, big talkers and dreamers we would already eliminate all the bad leaders of the present politicians and pundits.

]]> By: Pero Ristow http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3772 Pero Ristow Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:05:05 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3772 When I see what is happening in once proud democracy, I am so happy I have expatriated myself with my family to Europe. I thought I pledged allegiance to the George Washington's Republic but it turned out to be to the AIPAC. Here, nobody is forcing on us ideas of hating Arabs, Iranians or Muslims in general. The constant talk about the necessity of War comes only from Israel,America and Blair Britain - three rogues par excellence. There is no religious delirium about a crap like Armageddon. We are observing anglo-american hysteria with a strong feeling of what Spaniards call- "verguenza ajena"-a feeling of shame for what somebody related to you has done. When I see what is happening in once proud democracy, I am so happy I have expatriated myself with my family to Europe.
I thought I pledged allegiance to the George Washington’s Republic but it turned out to be to the AIPAC.
Here, nobody is forcing on us ideas of hating Arabs, Iranians or Muslims in general. The constant talk about the necessity of War comes only from Israel,America and Blair Britain - three rogues par excellence. There is no religious delirium about a crap like Armageddon.
We are observing anglo-american hysteria with a strong feeling of what Spaniards call- “verguenza ajena”-a feeling of shame for what somebody related to you has done.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3771 Jim Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:54:15 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3771 If anyone is interested in a whole heap more information & analysis of the torture scandal, the longest chapter in my Attention Deficit Democracy (Palgrave 2006)deals with that subject. If anyone is interested in a whole heap more information & analysis of the torture scandal, the longest chapter in my Attention Deficit Democracy (Palgrave 2006)deals with that subject.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3770 Jim Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:51:55 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3770 D. Saul Weiner - yes, and many neoconservatives and other laptop bombardiers are perhaps disappointed that the fatality rate from US interrogations has not been higher. The arguments around the US govt torture policy since mid 2004 are a fascinating snapshot of the rising support for barbarism. D. Saul Weiner - yes, and many neoconservatives and other laptop bombardiers are perhaps disappointed that the fatality rate from US interrogations has not been higher.

The arguments around the US govt torture policy since mid 2004 are a fascinating snapshot of the rising support for barbarism.

]]> By: D. Saul Weiner http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3769 D. Saul Weiner Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:45:45 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3769 George Sr. offered a vision of kinder and gentler government? Sure many of us were skeptical, but how many of us could predict that one day his son would unveil kinder and gentler torture? George Sr. offered a vision of kinder and gentler government?

Sure many of us were skeptical, but how many of us could predict that one day his son would unveil kinder and gentler torture?

]]> By: camus http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3768 camus Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:25:03 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3768 i have been thinking for a while now that we should waterboard Cheney, Rummy, Rove.....imagine what interesting,sick truths we would discover...When one ponders the fact that 70-90 % of those we have tortured are COMPLETELY INNOCENT of anything, it really is no moral stretch to condone, edorse, enjoy watching the truly evil gander get what was good for the goose. Also, remember treason during war is punishable by death......bring back the guillotine....now thats reality TV that will truly be "must see" i have been thinking for a while now that we should waterboard Cheney, Rummy, Rove…..imagine what interesting,sick truths we would discover…When one ponders the fact that 70-90 % of those we have tortured are COMPLETELY INNOCENT of anything, it really is no moral stretch to condone, edorse, enjoy watching the truly evil gander get what was good for the goose. Also, remember treason during war is punishable by death……bring back the guillotine….now thats reality TV that will truly be “must see”

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3767 Jim Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:19:01 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3767 Lawhobbit - I was merely listing some of the "interrogation methods" that Rumsfeld approved. I completely agree with you regarding the aesthetics of this issue. There are other interrogation methods that are much more likely to get the truth without inflicting collateral damage on the American people. Lawhobbit - I was merely listing some of the “interrogation methods” that Rumsfeld approved.

I completely agree with you regarding the aesthetics of this issue.

There are other interrogation methods that are much more likely to get the truth without inflicting collateral damage on the American people.

]]> By: Patty http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3766 Patty Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:11:03 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2006/08/27/how-to-pry-the-truth-out-of-congressmen/#comment-3766 The majority of Americans have given up their rights. The government has so much power now in this country, they can bend people to do their bidding at any time. The Supreme Court lets Bush and his cohorts walk all over the Constitution until you can't recognize it anymore. Ig they get this latest bill through Congress where they can use any method they want to interrogate war criminals, how long do you think it will take them to justify using it on anyone they want to? This country's run of being a Republic is over with. We were never suppose to be a Democracy, democracy is where the rich run the poor and that's what we've had for a very long time now. So you can forget the kind of government and way of life you feel you should have, you'll never see it and neither will I ever again. At least I'm in my mid-sixties and will probably be dead before things get to be too, too bad. I cry many tears for the young who we have nothing even approaching freedom left to leave them. The majority of Americans have given up their rights. The government has so much power now in this country, they can bend people to do their bidding at any time. The Supreme Court lets Bush and his cohorts walk all over the Constitution until you can’t recognize it anymore. Ig they get this latest bill through Congress where they can use any method they want to interrogate war criminals, how long do you think it will take them to justify using it on anyone they want to? This country’s run of being a Republic is over with. We were never suppose to be a Democracy, democracy is where the rich run the poor and that’s what we’ve had for a very long time now. So you can forget the kind of government and way of life you feel you should have, you’ll never see it and neither will I ever again. At least I’m in my mid-sixties and will probably be dead before things get to be too, too bad. I cry many tears for the young who we have nothing even approaching freedom left to leave them.

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