Comments on: Killer Cops Next to DC http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/ Author James Bovard Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:42:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: BOVARD » Government’s Right to Murder - Now Official in Prince George’s County http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-120731 BOVARD » Government’s Right to Murder - Now Official in Prince George’s County Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:16:29 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-120731 [...] have been ragging on Prince George’s County, Maryland (adjacent to DC) for most of this [...] [...] have been ragging on Prince George’s County, Maryland (adjacent to DC) for most of this [...]

]]> By: mammy http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-113107 mammy Wed, 21 May 2008 00:11:51 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-113107 I know someone who was just killed by pg police, also had no weapon and shot in the back. And the cop was back from iraq. Just like philben predicted. I know someone who was just killed by pg police, also had no weapon and shot in the back. And the cop was back from iraq. Just like philben predicted.

]]> By: Rob http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-83505 Rob Sun, 27 May 2007 06:24:44 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-83505 Here in nashville,tn ,our police and sheriff's departments, DA's and others we pay to serve and protect us have adopted attitudes and dishonest tactics as nasty as those of the carachters seen on tv shows such as C.S.I., Law and order, Criminal minds and N.C.I.S. These people are a bunch of lawless thugs who enjoy impunity from the laws they are supposed to uphold. The police here feel free to manhandle anyone with no regard for the perosns rights or safety. Most of the laws here have been written so that a person can be imprisoned with no proof of a crime needed for conviction. Justice is for sale here and the price is extrememly high. The police and DA'S know most people here work for less than $7.00 per hour. This means they can't afford a decent attorney,so they have to settle for a public defender("public pretender"). no ordinary civilian is safe. I used to be a member of the police benevolence association but ,after the way a cop treated me, no more. I'm tired of my rights being violated by terrorist thugs. Here in nashville,tn ,our police and sheriff’s departments, DA’s and others we pay to serve and protect us have adopted attitudes and dishonest tactics as nasty as those of the carachters seen on tv shows such as C.S.I., Law and order, Criminal minds and N.C.I.S. These people are a bunch of lawless thugs who enjoy impunity from the laws they are supposed to uphold. The police here feel free to manhandle anyone with no regard for the perosns rights or safety. Most of the laws here have been written so that a person can be imprisoned with no proof of a crime needed for conviction. Justice is for sale here and the price is extrememly high. The police and DA’S know most people here work for less than $7.00 per hour. This means they can’t afford a decent attorney,so they have to settle for a public defender(”public pretender”). no ordinary civilian is safe. I used to be a member of the police benevolence association but ,after the way a cop treated me, no more. I’m tired of my rights being violated by terrorist thugs.

]]> By: Pg officers wice http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-28210 Pg officers wice Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:24:01 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-28210 Until you walk the thin blue line you will never understand what it is like to be a police officer. If you think you can do a better job I suggest, no I urge you to fill out an application. PG is hiring! Just remember next time you need to call the police (I think I heard it best said on the back of a t-shirt) "Don't like the police, next time you need one call a crackhead" Until you walk the thin blue line you will never understand what it is like to be a police officer. If you think you can do a better job I suggest, no I urge you to fill out an application. PG is hiring!
Just remember next time you need to call the police (I think I heard it best said on the back of a t-shirt) “Don’t like the police, next time you need one call a crackhead”

]]> By: americanintifada http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21542 americanintifada Tue, 06 Feb 2007 06:40:16 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21542 Jim: You're correct. I will NOT be buyihg any alleged "benevolent association" tickets at anytime, anywhere. I have always been cautious of the police due to my upbringing. I was a Navy brat raised in Southern California whose 'lifer' daddy served as a Shore Patrol in LA and Long Beach back in the 40's and 50's. Drunken sailors and Marines felt very lucky indeed if they got hauled off to the brig by burly MPs and SPs rather than beaten close to death with rubber hoses by 'benevolent LAPD officers' if arrested by those particular sadistic hate-filled racists. My pappy used to patrol the notorious Pike in Long Beach back then, which happened to be the hottest ticket in Southern California. This was after the infamous Zoot Suit riots, but some things in LA never change. We ended up in Orange County, but the attitude of police officers was the same, as if there was no separation between counties - including San Diego, Riverside and San Bernardino. Long Beach and San Diego may have been Navy towns, but locals used to put signs on their front yards "Dogs, Sailors and Marines - Keep off the grass!" Jim:

You’re correct. I will NOT be buyihg any alleged “benevolent association” tickets at anytime, anywhere. I have always been cautious of the police due to my upbringing. I was a Navy brat raised in Southern California whose ‘lifer’ daddy served as a Shore Patrol in LA and Long Beach back in the 40’s and 50’s. Drunken sailors and Marines felt very lucky indeed if they got hauled off to the brig by burly MPs and SPs rather than beaten close to death with rubber hoses by ‘benevolent LAPD officers’ if arrested by those particular sadistic hate-filled racists.

My pappy used to patrol the notorious Pike in Long Beach back then, which happened to be the hottest ticket in Southern California. This was after the infamous Zoot Suit riots, but some things in LA never change. We ended up in Orange County, but the attitude of police officers was the same, as if there was no separation between counties - including San Diego, Riverside and San Bernardino.

Long Beach and San Diego may have been Navy towns, but locals used to put signs on their front yards “Dogs, Sailors and Marines - Keep off the grass!”

]]> By: Mike http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21534 Mike Tue, 06 Feb 2007 05:58:49 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21534 I think that it’s unfortunate that so many people have this view of police officers. The situation has been caused by both the police and the community. The legislature has criminalized so many actions that almost anyone can be arrested or cited for something. The job of a police officer is to protect the public and enforce the laws. What happens when one conflicts with the other? The war on drugs does nothing to protect the public, should police officers refuse to enforce drug laws? Should they pick and choose which laws to enforce? Regardless of whether or not you think this is a good idea most police officers have already made the choice and have decided to enforce the laws rather then protect the public. Police officers feel a commitment to the law and not the people. This has caused a rift between the police and the public. The public has become secondary to enforcing the law. I don’t think this can be changed without a drastic reduction in the number of laws and a lot of time to untrain most of the current officers. I think that it’s unfortunate that so many people have this view of police officers. The situation has been caused by both the police and the community. The legislature has criminalized so many actions that almost anyone can be arrested or cited for something. The job of a police officer is to protect the public and enforce the laws. What happens when one conflicts with the other? The war on drugs does nothing to protect the public, should police officers refuse to enforce drug laws? Should they pick and choose which laws to enforce? Regardless of whether or not you think this is a good idea most police officers have already made the choice and have decided to enforce the laws rather then protect the public. Police officers feel a commitment to the law and not the people. This has caused a rift between the police and the public. The public has become secondary to enforcing the law. I don’t think this can be changed without a drastic reduction in the number of laws and a lot of time to untrain most of the current officers.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21520 Jim Tue, 06 Feb 2007 04:06:26 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21520 I'm just guessing here, but, I'm assuming that none of the commentors on this thread want to purchase tickets for a full table at the upcoming Patrolmen Benevolent Association dinner? I’m just guessing here, but, I’m assuming that none of the commentors on this thread want to purchase tickets for a full table at the upcoming Patrolmen Benevolent Association dinner?

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21519 Jim Tue, 06 Feb 2007 04:05:33 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21519 Actually, in P.G. County, a number of the victims have been white. I don't recall seeing a breakdown in the race of cop shooters versus cop victims. There was also a horrendous case of a white PG policewoman siccing her police dog on some Hispanic males who had been taken into custody. That cost P.G. taxpayers a heap. Actually, in P.G. County, a number of the victims have been white. I don’t recall seeing a breakdown in the race of cop shooters versus cop victims.

There was also a horrendous case of a white PG policewoman siccing her police dog on some Hispanic males who had been taken into custody. That cost P.G. taxpayers a heap.

]]> By: expat http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21469 expat Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:46:07 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21469 I think the reason why the ongoing police lawlessness/terrorism continues with no great cry for corrective action is probably the following: the police are black, as are the victims. Without a racial angle politicians and the MSM can't sustain much interest in the problem. I think the reason why the ongoing police lawlessness/terrorism continues with no great cry for corrective action is probably the following: the police are black, as are the victims. Without a racial angle politicians and the MSM can’t sustain much interest in the problem.

]]> By: Sean http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21358 Sean Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:18:38 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21358 The police are always around to give an open container ticket, a parking ticket, a cell phone ticket, or to mow down minorities. They are never around when they are needed. Glass on my car has been broken twice, my friend's skull wash bashed in on the subway, and another friend of mine was recently mugged. Where can I sign up for this depolicing? It would be much more effective if my neighbors and I were allowed to carry firearms and keep the block clean ourselves. In order to do that one might need to clean off some of the criminals who carry badges in the process. Cops are concerned primarily with quotas and their own job security. If they feared street-level retaliation, like they once did, that would be the true deterrent from them killing innocents. Right now they literally get away w/ murder everytime. The police do deserve equal treatment. We should start by taking away special punishments for those who injure or kill cops. Their lives aren't any more valuable than anyone else's and they choose a dangerous profession. After that we can start arresting and questioning them immediately after these shooting incidents like the murder suspects they so often are. The police are always around to give an open container ticket, a parking ticket, a cell phone ticket, or to mow down minorities. They are never around when they are needed. Glass on my car has been broken twice, my friend’s skull wash bashed in on the subway, and another friend of mine was recently mugged.

Where can I sign up for this depolicing? It would be much more effective if my neighbors and I were allowed to carry firearms and keep the block clean ourselves. In order to do that one might need to clean off some of the criminals who carry badges in the process.

Cops are concerned primarily with quotas and their own job security. If they feared street-level retaliation, like they once did, that would be the true deterrent from them killing innocents. Right now they literally get away w/ murder everytime.

The police do deserve equal treatment. We should start by taking away special punishments for those who injure or kill cops. Their lives aren’t any more valuable than anyone else’s and they choose a dangerous profession. After that we can start arresting and questioning them immediately after these shooting incidents like the murder suspects they so often are.

]]> By: john http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21301 john Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:34:12 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21301 Scott is being sensitive and lenient. NEVER trust a cop. If a cop lies it is called "good police work". Scott is being sensitive and lenient. NEVER trust a cop. If a cop lies it is called “good police work”.

]]> By: americanintifada http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21273 americanintifada Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:41:20 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21273 Hey everybody! Lighten up on these poor, abused police officers! We should be thanking them for performing their duties with a 'Fox Attitude'! I have to show support because one of these alleged officers may end up as my own personal 'renditioner' when they haul me off to the gulag! Hey everybody! Lighten up on these poor, abused police officers! We should be thanking them for performing their duties with a ‘Fox Attitude’!

I have to show support because one of these alleged officers may end up as my own personal ‘renditioner’ when they haul me off to the gulag!

]]> By: A. G. Phillbin http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21229 A. G. Phillbin Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:40:17 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21229 The cowardly whine of Officer Simmons went something like this: “As for the unarmed man who was killed while relieving himself, he was intoxicated and reaching into his waistband after being ordered to show his hands. As an officer, would you have waited to shoot until after he shot you? How can I expect Bovard to understand that? His biggest worry is carpal tunnel syndrome. Mine is dying in a neighborhood I don’t live in but risk my life for.” Really, Officer? What about us innocent civilians, who might just be taking a whiz at the wrong place and time, and get stopped by one of you tax fattened drones? Should we risk our f**king lives because we'd like to zip up our fly before dealing with your inane questions and/or searches? You don't want to wait to even see a glint of metal before you shoot someone down, right? It is just that stupid, arrogant attitude that guarantees that more innocent people will die at your hands. Is it your contention that the job of protecting the innocent requires killing the innocent? Well, here's a news flash for you, officer - if you are unwilling to risk your life to prevent YOURSELF from shooting an innocent person, then you are too much of a COWARD to be out there protecting the innocent from criminals. Must we fear the police as well as the criminals? If you can't take the kind of risk to avoid killing the innocent, then go get a job pushing a broom. The cowardly whine of Officer Simmons went something like this:

“As for the unarmed man who was killed while relieving himself, he was intoxicated and reaching into his waistband after being ordered to show his hands. As an officer, would you have waited to shoot until after he shot you? How can I expect Bovard to understand that? His biggest worry is carpal tunnel syndrome. Mine is dying in a neighborhood I don’t live in but risk my life for.”

Really, Officer? What about us innocent civilians, who might just be taking a whiz at the wrong place and time, and get stopped by one of you tax fattened drones? Should we risk our f**king lives because we’d like to zip up our fly before dealing with your inane questions and/or searches? You don’t want to wait to even see a glint of metal before you shoot someone down, right? It is just that stupid, arrogant attitude that guarantees that more innocent people will die at your hands. Is it your contention that the job of protecting the innocent requires killing the innocent? Well, here’s a news flash for you, officer - if you are unwilling to risk your life to prevent YOURSELF from shooting an innocent person, then you are too much of a COWARD to be out there protecting the innocent from criminals. Must we fear the police as well as the criminals? If you can’t take the kind of risk to avoid killing the innocent, then go get a job pushing a broom.

]]> By: Gregorio http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21201 Gregorio Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:32:05 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21201 The instant case is characteristic of a mind set for most drawn to law enforcement, especially after military service. The one officer who shot Sean Bell in New York 33 times, and had to reload his pistol to do this, was back from duty in Iraq only nine months. There should be a law prohibiting those who have been in the service from getting into law enforcement or prison guard duty. We're about to see an epidemic of police excessive use of force on citizens thought of as 'towel heads' and potential terrorists. The instant case is characteristic of a mind set for most drawn to law enforcement, especially after military service. The one officer who shot Sean Bell in New York 33 times, and had to reload his pistol to do this, was back from duty in Iraq only nine months. There should be a law prohibiting those who have been in the service from getting into law enforcement or prison guard duty. We’re about to see an epidemic of police excessive use of force on citizens thought of as ‘towel heads’ and potential terrorists.

]]> By: Mike http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21196 Mike Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:28:07 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/04/killer-cops-next-to-dc/#comment-21196 “As for the unarmed man who was killed while relieving himself, he was intoxicated and reaching into his waistband after being ordered to show his hands. As an officer, would you have waited to shoot until after he shot you? How can I expect Bovard to understand that? His biggest worry is carpal tunnel syndrome. Mine is dying in a neighborhood I don’t live in but risk my life for.” Officer Simmons, you don’t have to wait until he shoots you but you do have to at least wait to see if he has a weapon. Shooting first and asking questions later means that you are probably too scared to do your job effectively. It’s a tough job and not everyone can do it, do yourself and your community a service and seek other employment. “As for the unarmed man who was killed while relieving himself, he was intoxicated and reaching into his waistband after being ordered to show his hands. As an officer, would you have waited to shoot until after he shot you? How can I expect Bovard to understand that? His biggest worry is carpal tunnel syndrome. Mine is dying in a neighborhood I don’t live in but risk my life for.”

Officer Simmons, you don’t have to wait until he shoots you but you do have to at least wait to see if he has a weapon. Shooting first and asking questions later means that you are probably too scared to do your job effectively. It’s a tough job and not everyone can do it, do yourself and your community a service and seek other employment.

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