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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Liberating&#8221; Iran, Enslaving America</title>
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		<title>By: ninraver</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-112037</link>
		<dc:creator>ninraver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comming soon to your wallett!
Government-issed ID cards complete with RFID implant! 
Good for getting into national parks, airports, court houses, or just about anywhere you want to be securely and accurately tracked for your own saftey.

In '08 if i'm forced to have a card i'll definately be putting it directly into my grounded foil baggie until i absolutely have to use it...  its bad enough they can blanket all of north america with GWEN/HAARP ELF mayhem. heck, i think i'll construct a good faraday cage. watch your brainwaves, folks... theres some very crazy cold-war technology out there and its definately awe-inspiring yet scary as all hell to think such a system could really be devised implemented and actively WORKING for as long as they've had fiber optics criss-crossed strug about the country linking up the Ground Wave Emergeny Network ELF communication towers that happen to broadcast in some very 'interesting' frequencies...  

basically, there is no hiding from these ELF frequencies. We've been sucessfully dulled and lulled into this by our own stupidity and blindness to a very REAL technology being used actively that one can MEASURE and MONITOR the harmful effects of. (anyone have a 50ft antenna and 100khz-3ghz wide-band receiver?) 

Think you'll ever hear a mention of this on CNN, FOX, MSNBC? goodluck. our society is made up of weapons of mass distractions (especially one which is invisbible and always constantly bombarding you) and i doubt anything will change until somehow we collectively 'learn'...  

if someone would PROVE that such a system is in place and actively dulling the american population or producing some sort of 'harmful' effect via this ELF radiation bombarding us 24/7 that would be plenty of an issue to raise enough alarms. i'd hope... or else they may end up revealing its existence (perfected since the 70's) and announce their answer to terrorists and all opposing the American agenda. 
O_o
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comming soon to your wallett!<br />
Government-issed ID cards complete with RFID implant!<br />
Good for getting into national parks, airports, court houses, or just about anywhere you want to be securely and accurately tracked for your own saftey.</p>
<p>In &#8216;08 if i&#8217;m forced to have a card i&#8217;ll definately be putting it directly into my grounded foil baggie until i absolutely have to use it&#8230;  its bad enough they can blanket all of north america with GWEN/HAARP ELF mayhem. heck, i think i&#8217;ll construct a good faraday cage. watch your brainwaves, folks&#8230; theres some very crazy cold-war technology out there and its definately awe-inspiring yet scary as all hell to think such a system could really be devised implemented and actively WORKING for as long as they&#8217;ve had fiber optics criss-crossed strug about the country linking up the Ground Wave Emergeny Network ELF communication towers that happen to broadcast in some very &#8216;interesting&#8217; frequencies&#8230;  </p>
<p>basically, there is no hiding from these ELF frequencies. We&#8217;ve been sucessfully dulled and lulled into this by our own stupidity and blindness to a very REAL technology being used actively that one can MEASURE and MONITOR the harmful effects of. (anyone have a 50ft antenna and 100khz-3ghz wide-band receiver?) </p>
<p>Think you&#8217;ll ever hear a mention of this on CNN, FOX, MSNBC? goodluck. our society is made up of weapons of mass distractions (especially one which is invisbible and always constantly bombarding you) and i doubt anything will change until somehow we collectively &#8216;learn&#8217;&#8230;  </p>
<p>if someone would PROVE that such a system is in place and actively dulling the american population or producing some sort of &#8216;harmful&#8217; effect via this ELF radiation bombarding us 24/7 that would be plenty of an issue to raise enough alarms. i&#8217;d hope&#8230; or else they may end up revealing its existence (perfected since the 70&#8217;s) and announce their answer to terrorists and all opposing the American agenda.<br />
O_o<br />
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		<title>By: Scholars &#38; Rogues &#187; Who needs a police state when the state polices itself?</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-111500</link>
		<dc:creator>Scholars &#38; Rogues &#187; Who needs a police state when the state polices itself?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] libertarian author James Bovard writes: &#8220;If there are new terror attacks at home [is] there any reason to expect that [they] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Who needs a police state when the state polices itself? &#171; Scholars and Rogues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who needs a police state when the state polices itself? &#171; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] libertarian author James Bovard writes: &#8220;If there are new terror attacks at home [is] there any reason to expect that [they] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: E in MD</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-33928</link>
		<dc:creator>E in MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I'll be immigrating to England soon. I'm sure they can use a competent programmer.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27552</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That poll is grim.  I'm glad it is at least getting some print coverage...

I hope there will be enough generals to avoid another Bush war..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That poll is grim.  I&#8217;m glad it is at least getting some print coverage&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope there will be enough generals to avoid another Bush war..</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Swanson</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27467</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that it will make any difference to the lunatic fringe focused on "spreading democracy abroad", but a few generals, apparently, plan to resign if Bush  initiates war with Iran by ordering air strikes on its "nucular" facilities. They feel that the military is already stretched too thin and near the breaking point. The Air Force brass, however, is backing the Bush agenda. 
 According to a recent poll, Americans generally feel that the tens of thousands of civilians killed, maimed, and displaced by the Iraq war is unfortunate but "what war is all about". Substitute war with empire and it becomes clear why most of the world now views the United States as a callous and self-righteous thug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that it will make any difference to the lunatic fringe focused on &#8220;spreading democracy abroad&#8221;, but a few generals, apparently, plan to resign if Bush  initiates war with Iran by ordering air strikes on its &#8220;nucular&#8221; facilities. They feel that the military is already stretched too thin and near the breaking point. The Air Force brass, however, is backing the Bush agenda.<br />
 According to a recent poll, Americans generally feel that the tens of thousands of civilians killed, maimed, and displaced by the Iraq war is unfortunate but &#8220;what war is all about&#8221;. Substitute war with empire and it becomes clear why most of the world now views the United States as a callous and self-righteous thug.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Manley</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27405</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Manley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes! 

With "protectors" like this, who needs enemies?

)   :</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes! </p>
<p>With &#8220;protectors&#8221; like this, who needs enemies?</p>
<p>)   :</p>
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		<title>By: Al Koppel</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27377</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Koppel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American republic cannot afford to permit a president to remain above the law and the Constitution indefinitely.  
     (May the Speaker of the House be strong enough to wield the power of the American people which she represents as the law of this country in Congress, and not only to put a crimp on this psychopathic scion of another Bush idiot, but to help us, the people, impeach him and his mentors and their ass-lickers out of our U.S. Federal government, so that we, the people, may hold them accountable to our U.S. Federal and State laws that mandate heavy penalties for 'terrorist acts' committed upon our U.S. citizens, legal residents and others, as these are crimes that can not be shielded by Executive Privileges! - Al Koppel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American republic cannot afford to permit a president to remain above the law and the Constitution indefinitely.<br />
     (May the Speaker of the House be strong enough to wield the power of the American people which she represents as the law of this country in Congress, and not only to put a crimp on this psychopathic scion of another Bush idiot, but to help us, the people, impeach him and his mentors and their ass-lickers out of our U.S. Federal government, so that we, the people, may hold them accountable to our U.S. Federal and State laws that mandate heavy penalties for &#8216;terrorist acts&#8217; committed upon our U.S. citizens, legal residents and others, as these are crimes that can not be shielded by Executive Privileges! - Al Koppel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27372</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - your comment about how freedom means  "do what we are told" --  brings to mind the piece National Review ran on my 1999 book, Freedom in Chains.  The reviewer, after walking through some of my criticisms of Leviathan, tut-tutted:

"  I agree with him that laws against marijuana are a massive waste of time and money. But you can still avoid all the legal traps Bovard describes by steering clear of marijuana and other illegal drugs, just as the folks at Waco could have avoided their grief by steering clear of stupid cults or as most of us avoid no-knock ATF raids by not turning our homes into arsenals."

The reviewer, Matt Scully, later became one of Bush's speechwriters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom - your comment about how freedom means  &#8220;do what we are told&#8221; &#8212;  brings to mind the piece National Review ran on my 1999 book, Freedom in Chains.  The reviewer, after walking through some of my criticisms of Leviathan, tut-tutted:</p>
<p>&#8221;  I agree with him that laws against marijuana are a massive waste of time and money. But you can still avoid all the legal traps Bovard describes by steering clear of marijuana and other illegal drugs, just as the folks at Waco could have avoided their grief by steering clear of stupid cults or as most of us avoid no-knock ATF raids by not turning our homes into arsenals.&#8221;</p>
<p>The reviewer, Matt Scully, later became one of Bush&#8217;s speechwriters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27361</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken - I can't imagine that happening here.

It wouldn't be the American Way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken - I can&#8217;t imagine that happening here.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be the American Way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Europeans are presently moving to enact laws that enable the police to track all internet activity. http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20070224-111035-3756r.htm 

This is the classic " if you're not doing anything wrong then you don't have anythiing to worry about" rationale.

Scott Horton reports on his blog "Stress" that an Egyptian blogger was just sentenced to 4 years in prison for criticizing the government and the state religion. Blogger sentenced to 4 years ...

If the West keeps moving in the present direction of unchecked executive power then it will not be long before they, too, are locking up their critics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Europeans are presently moving to enact laws that enable the police to track all internet activity. <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20070224-111035-3756r.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20070224-111035-3756r.htm</a> </p>
<p>This is the classic &#8221; if you&#8217;re not doing anything wrong then you don&#8217;t have anythiing to worry about&#8221; rationale.</p>
<p>Scott Horton reports on his blog &#8220;Stress&#8221; that an Egyptian blogger was just sentenced to 4 years in prison for criticizing the government and the state religion. Blogger sentenced to 4 years &#8230;</p>
<p>If the West keeps moving in the present direction of unchecked executive power then it will not be long before they, too, are locking up their critics.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Blanton</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27305</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The war on Iran has essentially already begun with economic sanctions and likely covert activities. I would have to argue that the enslavement of Americans already exists. A full blown military conflict with Iran will just shorten our chains or increase the weight of our balls (I'm not referring to testicles here).

The evidence of our slavery becomes apparent when one attempts to break the chains of slavery. The new concept of freedom within a totalitarian system consists of the freedom to do what we are told and the freedom to refrain from what we are told not to do.

Recent examples of people who resist are Lt. Watada who is being recharged after a mistrial and Ed Brown who is holed up in his home awaiting the Feds. I suspect they are not feeling too free at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The war on Iran has essentially already begun with economic sanctions and likely covert activities. I would have to argue that the enslavement of Americans already exists. A full blown military conflict with Iran will just shorten our chains or increase the weight of our balls (I&#8217;m not referring to testicles here).</p>
<p>The evidence of our slavery becomes apparent when one attempts to break the chains of slavery. The new concept of freedom within a totalitarian system consists of the freedom to do what we are told and the freedom to refrain from what we are told not to do.</p>
<p>Recent examples of people who resist are Lt. Watada who is being recharged after a mistrial and Ed Brown who is holed up in his home awaiting the Feds. I suspect they are not feeling too free at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk A. Hayes</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27228</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk A. Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Morning, James -

Your piece featured by Grigg includes the following:

"Attacking Iran will put American civilians in the terrorist crosshairs, with little or no federal Kevlar to protect them. The key question is not whether terrorists will attack but how the American people will likely respond and how politicians could exploit the situation."

We already have the answers.  

The American public will demand something - anything - be done.  It will not matter if the recipients are guilty or not (witness Iraq today) as long as the blood lust of the ignorant public is stoked and then satiated.  

The politicians will, as always, enhance the power of leviathan over us, for our own good, of course.

Witnessing the events of 9/11 and what has taken place since gives me no hope of freedom being maintained when another such event takes place.  The really damnable aspect of the whole scenario is that the freedom lost will be with the blessing of the people who are being enslaved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning, James -</p>
<p>Your piece featured by Grigg includes the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;Attacking Iran will put American civilians in the terrorist crosshairs, with little or no federal Kevlar to protect them. The key question is not whether terrorists will attack but how the American people will likely respond and how politicians could exploit the situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>We already have the answers.  </p>
<p>The American public will demand something - anything - be done.  It will not matter if the recipients are guilty or not (witness Iraq today) as long as the blood lust of the ignorant public is stoked and then satiated.  </p>
<p>The politicians will, as always, enhance the power of leviathan over us, for our own good, of course.</p>
<p>Witnessing the events of 9/11 and what has taken place since gives me no hope of freedom being maintained when another such event takes place.  The really damnable aspect of the whole scenario is that the freedom lost will be with the blessing of the people who are being enslaved.</p>
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		<title>By: Orville H. Larson</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/02/24/liberating-iran-enslaving-america/#comment-27204</link>
		<dc:creator>Orville H. Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, what else can you expect from a neofascist thug (Bush, not Ahmadinejad) who's controlled by a coterie of neocon liars and thugs?

Bush and his controllers rely on lies and shameless fearmongering to keep the (unthinking) people cowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, what else can you expect from a neofascist thug (Bush, not Ahmadinejad) who&#8217;s controlled by a coterie of neocon liars and thugs?</p>
<p>Bush and his controllers rely on lies and shameless fearmongering to keep the (unthinking) people cowed.</p>
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