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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Damned Proud&#8221; of Dead Lebanese Women &#038; Children</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AresGodOfWar</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-67109</link>
		<dc:creator>AresGodOfWar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 00:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mace Price, Renee, Dirk W. Sabin,

I wonder why you people are whining so?  You, the rest of the morons in America, in Israel, as well as the idiots in Europe, and the Arab and Muslim world get the governments you so richly deserve.  You people elect corrupt madmen, sociopaths, pyschopaths, lunatics, crazed rightwing fanatics who think a never ending state of war with an endless body count is an excellent idea.  People in the United States thought that electing a moron like George W Bush was "Cute" because he was not some intellectual liberal elitist sipping lautte from Starbucks running around.  You had not a care in the world that this guy couldn't tie his own shoe laces without a written set of instructions in front of him.  And now you wish to whine about it?  Get real!  Sept 11 was America's own making and frankly, when you are hit again and rest assured with the invasion of Iraq, you will be, I can simply sit back and watch the carnage from afar, laughing all the way to the bank................of dead souls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mace Price, Renee, Dirk W. Sabin,</p>
<p>I wonder why you people are whining so?  You, the rest of the morons in America, in Israel, as well as the idiots in Europe, and the Arab and Muslim world get the governments you so richly deserve.  You people elect corrupt madmen, sociopaths, pyschopaths, lunatics, crazed rightwing fanatics who think a never ending state of war with an endless body count is an excellent idea.  People in the United States thought that electing a moron like George W Bush was &#8220;Cute&#8221; because he was not some intellectual liberal elitist sipping lautte from Starbucks running around.  You had not a care in the world that this guy couldn&#8217;t tie his own shoe laces without a written set of instructions in front of him.  And now you wish to whine about it?  Get real!  Sept 11 was America&#8217;s own making and frankly, when you are hit again and rest assured with the invasion of Iraq, you will be, I can simply sit back and watch the carnage from afar, laughing all the way to the bank&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.of dead souls.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-55275</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Damned Proud” of Dead Lebanese Women &#38; Children....proud of what how would you feel if one of them was ur son or daughter. seriously guys i dont know what to tell u but if u guys have been to lebanon you would understand me  "Lebanese and Proud"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Damned Proud” of Dead Lebanese Women &amp; Children&#8230;.proud of what how would you feel if one of them was ur son or daughter. seriously guys i dont know what to tell u but if u guys have been to lebanon you would understand me  &#8220;Lebanese and Proud&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-55272</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beirut is the city that will NEVER surrender, and stop talking about religion i didnt choose to be christian i was born christian they have their religion and we have ours only god can know who will go to hell or who will go to heaven and all what u guys r sayin is stupid becuase i reply dont agree with you guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beirut is the city that will NEVER surrender, and stop talking about religion i didnt choose to be christian i was born christian they have their religion and we have ours only god can know who will go to hell or who will go to heaven and all what u guys r sayin is stupid becuase i reply dont agree with you guys</p>
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		<title>By: Mace Price</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-46497</link>
		<dc:creator>Mace Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 03:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I believe all that remains to be said of that Goddamned Bolton as a public figure is this: How can a man so right, and so informed turn out so dead assed wrong?...Go figure? Past that all I can say is that some AIPAC Jezebel threw a trick on him that drove him nuts...It's been known to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I believe all that remains to be said of that Goddamned Bolton as a public figure is this: How can a man so right, and so informed turn out so dead assed wrong?&#8230;Go figure? Past that all I can say is that some AIPAC Jezebel threw a trick on him that drove him nuts&#8230;It&#8217;s been known to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: CHRIS BALUL</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-42877</link>
		<dc:creator>CHRIS BALUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War is Peace. 
Ignorance is Strength.
Bush is president.
What more needs to be said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War is Peace.<br />
Ignorance is Strength.<br />
Bush is president.<br />
What more needs to be said?</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk W. Sabin</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40571</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk W. Sabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man proud of littering a militarily weak country with cluster munitions is a man who displays all the pathologies of a sociopath. At least we now know that government is not immune from biological laws of entropy.

Perhaps we've been following the wrong tack here, maybe we should all start applauding these Heehaw Samurai with vigor and urge them to ever greater degrees of Bolsheveki fisticuffs and then their kneejerk defiance might vaporlock, causing them to raise a fist for peace. We're way off into counterintuitive territory here gentlemen, the insaner the better.The Marqui de Sade was but a piker.

I seem to recall that one of our earlier agreements with Israel was that they could not use our cluster munitions in agressive actions against other nations.Then again, I suppose that was an earlier agreement, tainted with the cloying scent of charming anachronism.

Silly me, I must have missed that College Republican Memo that added "homicidal maniac" to the list of definitions of a Conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man proud of littering a militarily weak country with cluster munitions is a man who displays all the pathologies of a sociopath. At least we now know that government is not immune from biological laws of entropy.</p>
<p>Perhaps we&#8217;ve been following the wrong tack here, maybe we should all start applauding these Heehaw Samurai with vigor and urge them to ever greater degrees of Bolsheveki fisticuffs and then their kneejerk defiance might vaporlock, causing them to raise a fist for peace. We&#8217;re way off into counterintuitive territory here gentlemen, the insaner the better.The Marqui de Sade was but a piker.</p>
<p>I seem to recall that one of our earlier agreements with Israel was that they could not use our cluster munitions in agressive actions against other nations.Then again, I suppose that was an earlier agreement, tainted with the cloying scent of charming anachronism.</p>
<p>Silly me, I must have missed that College Republican Memo that added &#8220;homicidal maniac&#8221; to the list of definitions of a Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40437</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Thanks for quoting me on your blog and thanks for the hearty recommendation for the book. 

It is not surprising that the government gives itself sovereign immunity, insuring that its own crimes will almost never be prosecuted.

What continues to surprise me is how almost all of the designated "public intellectuals" and editorial writers give government "moral immunity" - permitting it to kill civilians with impunity. 

Part of this is the result of anti-Arab or anti-Muslim sentiment.  But the vast majority of such commentators also did not give a damn when the Clinton administration slaughtered Serb civilians in Belgrade and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Thanks for quoting me on your blog and thanks for the hearty recommendation for the book. </p>
<p>It is not surprising that the government gives itself sovereign immunity, insuring that its own crimes will almost never be prosecuted.</p>
<p>What continues to surprise me is how almost all of the designated &#8220;public intellectuals&#8221; and editorial writers give government &#8220;moral immunity&#8221; - permitting it to kill civilians with impunity. </p>
<p>Part of this is the result of anti-Arab or anti-Muslim sentiment.  But the vast majority of such commentators also did not give a damn when the Clinton administration slaughtered Serb civilians in Belgrade and elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Gathara</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40432</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Gathara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unlikely that anyone in the American government or military will ever be held to account for the crimes against the Lebanese or the Iraqis. In the latter's case, the maintenance of a 12 year sanctions regime which was described (as you note in your book and I repeat on my &lt;a href="http://gathara.blogspot.com/2007/03/war-on-error-woe.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;: should I have sought your permission first?) by US congressmen as "infanticide masquerading as policy" and a bungled occupation that has led to the deaths of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unlikely that anyone in the American government or military will ever be held to account for the crimes against the Lebanese or the Iraqis. In the latter&#8217;s case, the maintenance of a 12 year sanctions regime which was described (as you note in your book and I repeat on my <a href="http://gathara.blogspot.com/2007/03/war-on-error-woe.html" rel="nofollow">blog</a>: should I have sought your permission first?) by US congressmen as &#8220;infanticide masquerading as policy&#8221; and a bungled occupation that has led to the deaths of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40387</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick - thanks for the kind words for Terrorism &#038; Tyranny.   Doing the research for that book was not a booster shot for my idealism.

Amazing how much hypocrisy the US government gets away with - and how few Americans seem to notice or care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick - thanks for the kind words for Terrorism &#038; Tyranny.   Doing the research for that book was not a booster shot for my idealism.</p>
<p>Amazing how much hypocrisy the US government gets away with - and how few Americans seem to notice or care.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40385</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War crimes are un-American.

I.e., U.S. government officials are never guilty of war crimes. 

This is especially true in the Bush adminsitration.  The John Yoo memo from August 2002 made it clear that this administration believes the president is exempt from any liability or accountability for war crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War crimes are un-American.</p>
<p>I.e., U.S. government officials are never guilty of war crimes. </p>
<p>This is especially true in the Bush adminsitration.  The John Yoo memo from August 2002 made it clear that this administration believes the president is exempt from any liability or accountability for war crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: onegreenday</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40356</link>
		<dc:creator>onegreenday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes Bolton guilt of war crimes against Lebanon and subject to criminal prosecution. Simply arrest him and have a trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes Bolton guilt of war crimes against Lebanon and subject to criminal prosecution. Simply arrest him and have a trial.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Gathara</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40329</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Gathara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just finished reading your book, Terrorism and Tyranny, and wanted to express my appreciation. It is a great work. I was especially struck by the impunity with which American government officials act. Now when I hear US demands for transparent and accountable government abroad, I can't help thinking that it could use some of that at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished reading your book, Terrorism and Tyranny, and wanted to express my appreciation. It is a great work. I was especially struck by the impunity with which American government officials act. Now when I hear US demands for transparent and accountable government abroad, I can&#8217;t help thinking that it could use some of that at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Ness</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40197</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Ness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christians of Lebanon and Iraq are mostly eastern rite Catholics.  Bush's fundamentalist Protestant supporters would probably not consider them "real" Christians.  Same-same for Latin American and Philippine Christians -- They are mainly RCs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christians of Lebanon and Iraq are mostly eastern rite Catholics.  Bush&#8217;s fundamentalist Protestant supporters would probably not consider them &#8220;real&#8221; Christians.  Same-same for Latin American and Philippine Christians &#8212; They are mainly RCs.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-40188</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst part is, the Iraq "War" isn't even a war, it was an invasion followed by a subsequent disastrous occupation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst part is, the Iraq &#8220;War&#8221; isn&#8217;t even a war, it was an invasion followed by a subsequent disastrous occupation!</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/03/22/damned-proud-of-dead-lebanese-women-children/#comment-39805</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, the situation is probably more complex than most Lebanese even realise; While the leaders play on peoples fears and predjudices in order to reaffirm their respective positions the majority of their followers don't have those clear cut beliefs because, like Tom says above, the majority are not entrenched in one dogma or another. I, like those that I know, know whom I support, but I also believe that some of what they say or do is wrong or questionable.

What we Lebanese need to keep in mind is that the majority of us support the side we support becasue we believe in their stand, not because we dislke the others</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, the situation is probably more complex than most Lebanese even realise; While the leaders play on peoples fears and predjudices in order to reaffirm their respective positions the majority of their followers don&#8217;t have those clear cut beliefs because, like Tom says above, the majority are not entrenched in one dogma or another. I, like those that I know, know whom I support, but I also believe that some of what they say or do is wrong or questionable.</p>
<p>What we Lebanese need to keep in mind is that the majority of us support the side we support becasue we believe in their stand, not because we dislke the others</p>
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