Comments on: Are Presidents Entitled to Kill Foreigners? http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/ Author James Bovard Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:23:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Armed and Hammered http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111444 Armed and Hammered Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:59:52 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111444 Death metal gets such a bad rap...Six hours of mindless patriotic drivel from any contemporary country music "artist" would have me gnawing the arteries out of my own wrists and admitting to everything from shooting the Pope to causing the great Midwestern blackout of '03. Death metal gets such a bad rap…Six hours of mindless patriotic drivel from any contemporary country music “artist” would have me gnawing the arteries out of my own wrists and admitting to everything from shooting the Pope to causing the great Midwestern blackout of ‘03.

]]> By: JLS http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111400 JLS Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:04:05 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111400 Wrong. Innocent people have always died in war. Atomic bombs timed to schoolchildren walking down the street...WWII bombings over Germany. We can go back to prehistory. Not an example of modern presidency. Just a fact of human nature. Nothing new under the sun, here. Enlighten us with something everybody already knows. Wrong. Innocent people have always died in war. Atomic bombs timed to schoolchildren walking down the street…WWII bombings over Germany. We can go back to prehistory. Not an example of modern presidency. Just a fact of human nature. Nothing new under the sun, here. Enlighten us with something everybody already knows.

]]> By: David http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111396 David Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:23:57 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111396 Your op-ed was far too urbane for those hicks. Your op-ed was far too urbane for those hicks.

]]> By: petey http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111395 petey Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:19:59 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111395 "I’m for saving the taxpayers some money and just giving Limbaugh a hillbilly heroin enema and send him off to hell." :D “I’m for saving the taxpayers some money and just giving Limbaugh a hillbilly heroin enema and send him off to hell.”

:D

]]> By: BOVARD » Editors Rave Over my "President's Right to Kill" article http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111394 BOVARD » Editors Rave Over my "President's Right to Kill" article Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:21:43 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111394 [...] The good folks at the Future of Freedom Foundation kindly forwarded to me some of the lively responses they received  after sending out my op-ed, “Are Presidents Entitled to Kill Foreigners?” [...] [...] The good folks at the Future of Freedom Foundation kindly forwarded to me some of the lively responses they received  after sending out my op-ed, “Are Presidents Entitled to Kill Foreigners?” [...]

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111361 Tory Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:28:08 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111361 Giulianni can't wait to clean up Iraq (with nazi tactics). Giulianni can’t wait to clean up Iraq (with nazi tactics).

]]> By: Chris S http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111360 Chris S Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:46:50 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111360 I imagine if you asked all the current republican candidates, minus one of course, they would kill the foreigners first, then reply, "let me ask my cheerleader lawyers at the Justice Department," and have the sycophants come up with all of the legal mumbo jumbo that made it A-OK. I imagine if you asked all the current republican candidates, minus one of course, they would kill the foreigners first, then reply, “let me ask my cheerleader lawyers at the Justice Department,” and have the sycophants come up with all of the legal mumbo jumbo that made it A-OK.

]]> By: Tory http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111358 Tory Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:56:45 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111358 All of the world's hypocrisy is piled up here in America. Belsen was a gun free zone until some murderers arrived there. A certified Imperialist is now in charge; his predecessors have laid the groundwork for an infinite supply of campaign contributions (for both parties). Thousands of American business people will make millions off of our wars. When the profits slow they can instigate another attack to drum up more business. The torture and murder proves the authenticity of the threats - the bigger the lie the harder it is to believe the truth. Exploiting cheap labor still occurs. I would hope sugar cane was the last market for US entrepreneurs, but I doubt it. Tea, tobacco, bananas, and Polish iron ore (near Auschwitz). The shrub would know, you think so (oil) ? Fearmonger (and profiteer) Glenn Beck thinks it's all connected. With Rush we know, but with Glenn it takes a few shows to learn to ignore him. I like Rush; when he's free to say the things he says then so am I. They protect free speech (the kind that needs protection.) Not long ago Rush said the President should suspend habeus corpus - good for him. He helps protect people like Jim Bovard, Ron Paul and Jacob Hornberger (the kind we really want protected.) Atheist All of the world’s hypocrisy is piled up here in America.

Belsen was a gun free zone until some murderers arrived there.

A certified Imperialist is now in charge; his predecessors have laid the groundwork for an infinite supply of campaign contributions (for both parties). Thousands of American business people will make millions off of our wars. When the profits slow they can instigate another attack to drum up more business. The torture and murder proves the authenticity of the threats - the bigger the lie the harder it is to believe the truth.

Exploiting cheap labor still occurs. I would hope sugar cane was the last market for US entrepreneurs, but I doubt it. Tea, tobacco, bananas, and Polish iron ore (near Auschwitz). The shrub would know, you think so (oil) ?

Fearmonger (and profiteer) Glenn Beck thinks it’s all connected. With Rush we know, but with Glenn it takes a few shows to learn to ignore him. I like Rush; when he’s free to say the things he says then so am I. They protect free speech (the kind that needs protection.) Not long ago Rush said the President should suspend habeus corpus - good for him. He helps protect people like Jim Bovard, Ron Paul and Jacob Hornberger (the kind we really want protected.)

Atheist

]]> By: Jean http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111356 Jean Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:23:16 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111356 Jim, as usual right on. I always found it interesting that when people over there are defending their lands against invaders, (and that what most Iraqis feel right now about the presence of American troops) are labeled either insurgents or terrorist, but yet, 200 or so years ago, the colonists were protecting their property from invaders and they were called patriots. Slippery slope here for sure. As far as Hagee, I heard the interview live, and my thoughts were that he should be the poster boy for Atheists. Jim, as usual right on. I always found it interesting that when people over there are defending their lands against invaders, (and that what most Iraqis feel right now about the presence of American troops) are labeled either insurgents or terrorist, but yet, 200 or so years ago, the colonists were protecting their property from invaders and they were called patriots. Slippery slope here for sure. As far as Hagee, I heard the interview live, and my thoughts were that he should be the poster boy for Atheists.

]]> By: Marc http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111355 Marc Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:29:44 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111355 It must be frustrating for someone who suffers from a messianic complex to realize that his political reign is nearing an end before being able to fully neutralize what he has claimed is a major threat to America's freedom - islamofascism. I'm sure that prominent historians will give Bush his due for years to come. I strongly suspect, however, that their scholarly appraisals will generally stop far short of deification. It must be frustrating for someone who suffers from a messianic complex to realize that his political reign is nearing an end before being able to fully neutralize what he has claimed is a major threat to America’s freedom - islamofascism. I’m sure that prominent historians will give Bush his due for years to come. I strongly suspect, however, that their scholarly appraisals will generally stop far short of deification.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111354 Jim Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:06:55 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111354 Tom - thanks for the kind words for the piece - and thanks for linking to it on your Project for a New American Revolution site. http://www.pnar.org/ I had not heard about Beck's latest triumph in public service. Geez. Tom - thanks for the kind words for the piece - and thanks for linking to it on your Project for a New American Revolution site. http://www.pnar.org/

I had not heard about Beck’s latest triumph in public service. Geez.

]]> By: Tom Blanton http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111350 Tom Blanton Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:56:11 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111350 I'm for saving the taxpayers some money and just giving Limbaugh a hillbilly heroin enema and send him off to hell. The shock jock that wins the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Fritzsche" rel="nofollow">Hans Fritzche</a> Award for broadcast excess is Glenn Beck, in my book. This bootlicker recently did a week-long diatribe he called the "Perfect Day" about how the Islamofascists were plotting multiple attacks on schools to kill the boys and rape the girls. I'm not kidding. He even reported that school buses had been stolen in Texas and implied that al Qaida would use the buses to train for future hijackings. He reported that the government wasn't telling us about all this because it would create a panic, but he felt that citizens should be informed so that they wouldn't panic on the "Perfect Day". After a week of this fearmongering, he implored parents to contact their children's schools to demand that school officials prepare for the "Perfect Day". It would seem to me that the result of all this would be to create fear in children and indoctrinate them to hate Muslims. A modern day "duck and cover" program - all to ramp up the fear and loathing. Glenn Beck deserves a free ski trip to Waziristan for his propaganda efforts. I’m for saving the taxpayers some money and just giving Limbaugh a hillbilly heroin enema and send him off to hell.

The shock jock that wins the Hans Fritzche Award for broadcast excess is Glenn Beck, in my book.

This bootlicker recently did a week-long diatribe he called the “Perfect Day” about how the Islamofascists were plotting multiple attacks on schools to kill the boys and rape the girls. I’m not kidding. He even reported that school buses had been stolen in Texas and implied that al Qaida would use the buses to train for future hijackings.

He reported that the government wasn’t telling us about all this because it would create a panic, but he felt that citizens should be informed so that they wouldn’t panic on the “Perfect Day”.

After a week of this fearmongering, he implored parents to contact their children’s schools to demand that school officials prepare for the “Perfect Day”. It would seem to me that the result of all this would be to create fear in children and indoctrinate them to hate Muslims.

A modern day “duck and cover” program - all to ramp up the fear and loathing.

Glenn Beck deserves a free ski trip to Waziristan for his propaganda efforts.

]]> By: Ryan http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111348 Ryan Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:06:47 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111348 "A 900 foot neon Jesus appeared before me last night and informed me that Hagee will insist that ORU be nuked." :D How I wish, Tom. You know, we can develop our ideas about war crime trials for the Bush/Clinton regimes and their helpers in the media. Under the provision used to try Julius Streicher. Limbaugh would be a good candidate for water sports at "Club Gitmo". I'd require he wear some of that tasteless clothing he came up with for aspiring members of the future NKVD. We could also rotate death metal with complete three hour shows featuring such worthies as Rush, Sean and Michael Medved. Talk about "enhanced interrogation methods." Can you imagine having to listen to Sean's whiny voice for not just three hours? After exposure to that they would beg to be sentenced for their crimes. What might work even better than the Sudan might be to land a C-130 at Baghdad International and when it taxes around use the cargo off loading capability to roll off a pallet with Bush, Cheney and their strap hangers tied down for the Iraqis to give them whatever justice they wish. Ah, dreams... “A 900 foot neon Jesus appeared before me last night and informed me that Hagee will insist that ORU be nuked.”

:D

How I wish, Tom.

You know, we can develop our ideas about war crime trials for the Bush/Clinton regimes and their helpers in the media. Under the provision used to try Julius Streicher. Limbaugh would be a good candidate for water sports at “Club Gitmo”. I’d require he wear some of that tasteless clothing he came up with for aspiring members of the future NKVD.

We could also rotate death metal with complete three hour shows featuring such worthies as Rush, Sean and Michael Medved. Talk about “enhanced interrogation methods.” Can you imagine having to listen to Sean’s whiny voice for not just three hours? After exposure to that they would beg to be sentenced for their crimes.

What might work even better than the Sudan might be to land a C-130 at Baghdad International and when it taxes around use the cargo off loading capability to roll off a pallet with Bush, Cheney and their strap hangers tied down for the Iraqis to give them whatever justice they wish.

Ah, dreams…

]]> By: Tom Blanton http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111347 Tom Blanton Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:48:46 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111347 Editorial revision to my comment above: insert the words "be" and "for" in the appropriate places - or in inappropriate places as you wish, kids. LewRockwell.Com and CounterPunch have picked up the article above and it's always good to see Jim's stuff widely distributed. I always like to link to the FFF though because that is a damn good site. Anyway, I just wanted to note that the good Rev. Hagee (listen to the bizarre interview posted above) is back in the news. This time it is in regards to the sex/money scandal at the very anal Oral Roberts University. Hagee is on the ORU Board and will be looking into the matter. A 900 foot neon Jesus appeared before me last night and informed me that Hagee will insist that ORU be nuked. Son-of Oral, Dick Roberts has said God told him to deny any wrongdoing. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3694905 Editorial revision to my comment above: insert the words “be” and “for” in the appropriate places - or in inappropriate places as you wish, kids.

LewRockwell.Com and CounterPunch have picked up the article above and it’s always good to see Jim’s stuff widely distributed. I always like to link to the FFF though because that is a damn good site.

Anyway, I just wanted to note that the good Rev. Hagee (listen to the bizarre interview posted above) is back in the news. This time it is in regards to the sex/money scandal at the very anal Oral Roberts University. Hagee is on the ORU Board and will be looking into the matter. A 900 foot neon Jesus appeared before me last night and informed me that Hagee will insist that ORU be nuked. Son-of Oral, Dick Roberts has said God told him to deny any wrongdoing.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3694905

]]> By: Tom Blanton http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111343 Tom Blanton Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:07:48 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2007/10/05/are-presidents-entitled-to-kill-foreigners/#comment-111343 I share Ryan's fantasy. It would be the bi-partisan thing to do. For 5 years prior to the joint trial, I would like to see the two criminals share a small air conditioned (50 degrees) room at Gitmo that is well lit (perpetually) and has a loud sound system that plays death metal 24/7. Of course, recreation would be required. Something like water-boarding sports might be fun those two. After their long vacation in paradise where they would be well fed through nose tubes, they could be offered a plea deal - plead guilty or continue the vacation. I know some people might think this wouldn't be harsh enough for these two, in which case maybe they could turned over to a neutral country, like Sudan, where they would be tried. I share Ryan’s fantasy. It would be the bi-partisan thing to do. For 5 years prior to the joint trial, I would like to see the two criminals share a small air conditioned (50 degrees) room at Gitmo that is well lit (perpetually) and has a loud sound system that plays death metal 24/7.

Of course, recreation would be required. Something like water-boarding sports might be fun those two.

After their long vacation in paradise where they would be well fed through nose tubes, they could be offered a plea deal - plead guilty or continue the vacation.

I know some people might think this wouldn’t be harsh enough for these two, in which case maybe they could turned over to a neutral country, like Sudan, where they would be tried.

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