Comments on: AntiWar Issue in FLA Primary??? http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/ Author James Bovard Sat, 11 Feb 2012 04:12:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Ryan http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112347 Ryan Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:52:56 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112347 Lawhobbit, Damn if you weren't right. That's what I get for not being my normal, cynical self. This was going to be awful when I saw that the questions were "sent in". Cooper takes place with the other two Chrises who shouldn't be allowed to moderate "debates". Wallace and Matthews. Bring back Carolyn Washburn of DeMoine Register fame. There is no way she would have allowed Romney and the dispicable McCain to have engaged in their histronics nor would she have asked such stupid questions. Lawhobbit,

Damn if you weren’t right. That’s what I get for not being my normal, cynical self. This was going to be awful when I saw that the questions were “sent in”. Cooper takes place with the other two Chrises who shouldn’t be allowed to moderate “debates”. Wallace and Matthews. Bring back Carolyn Washburn of DeMoine Register fame. There is no way she would have allowed Romney and the dispicable McCain to have engaged in their histronics nor would she have asked such stupid questions.

]]> By: The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112333 The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:47:49 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112333 Ryan, Ryan, Ryan....they won't be "hard pressed" to do anything. They will take all of the time and wordage that Giuliani has gotten and divide it among what the Oregonian called "the legitimate Republican candidates." Quoting Yahoo: "That leaves only McCain and Romney with a serious shot at the nomination." Ryan, Ryan, Ryan….they won’t be “hard pressed” to do anything. They will take all of the time and wordage that Giuliani has gotten and divide it among what the Oregonian called “the legitimate Republican candidates.”

Quoting Yahoo: “That leaves only McCain and Romney with a serious shot at the nomination.”

]]> By: Ryan http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112329 Ryan Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:54:09 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112329 We do have this to look forward to tomorrow. With Guiliani out they will be hard pressed to short change Paul on the time. Think of all the entertainment that one can see from watching Paul ask McCain economic questions? Maybe he can ask McCain if he has gain any knowlege about the housing bubble from reading Greenspan's memoirs? Who knows, he could cause McCain to through a fit up there on stage. We do have this to look forward to tomorrow. With Guiliani out they will be hard pressed to short change Paul on the time. Think of all the entertainment that one can see from watching Paul ask McCain economic questions? Maybe he can ask McCain if he has gain any knowlege about the housing bubble from reading Greenspan’s memoirs? Who knows, he could cause McCain to through a fit up there on stage.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112327 Jim Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:29:44 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112327 But this was not the message of the RP ad campaign. It was a very soft approach that, as far as I know, made no mention of RP's opposition to the Iraq War. The campaign seems to be burying his best issue. But this was not the message of the RP ad campaign.

It was a very soft approach that, as far as I know, made no mention of RP’s opposition to the Iraq War.

The campaign seems to be burying his best issue.

]]> By: The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112326 The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:22:45 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112326 Three percent. Fairly constant. Well, I guess we know what percentage of Americans are somewhat in tune with the concepts of liberty and freedom. Three percent. Fairly constant.

Well, I guess we know what percentage of Americans are somewhat in tune with the concepts of liberty and freedom.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112325 Jim Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:58:56 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112325 Those ads aren't going to bring people to the voting booth. Three percent. Geez. Those ads aren’t going to bring people to the voting booth.

Three percent.

Geez.

]]> By: Tom Blanton http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112324 Tom Blanton Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:09:06 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112324 They are running Ron Paul ads in Richmond that are exactly as the one described above - except there is a blurb about Ron Paul believing that doctors and patients should control health care, not government and big corporations. It is a pretty good ad, but no mention of any war (or of a dollar gone down the toilet). They are running Ron Paul ads in Richmond that are exactly as the one described above - except there is a blurb about Ron Paul believing that doctors and patients should control health care, not government and big corporations. It is a pretty good ad, but no mention of any war (or of a dollar gone down the toilet).

]]> By: Mark Golding http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112320 Mark Golding Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:11:54 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112320 Oh blame Gene for everything - scapegoatology isn't science. Nevermind, the motto 'strength through industry and technology' is probably encoded into the gene pool also. Oh blame Gene for everything - scapegoatology isn’t science. Nevermind, the motto ’strength through industry and technology’ is probably encoded into the gene pool also.

]]> By: The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112316 The Infamous Oregon Lawhobbit Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:58:52 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112316 Mark, I think tribalism is encoded into our genes - good luck on getting rid of it. :D And Jim - still no email going through. I'm definitely feeling off the Christmas Card List. Mark, I think tribalism is encoded into our genes - good luck on getting rid of it. :D

And Jim - still no email going through. I’m definitely feeling off the Christmas Card List.

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112311 Jim Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:33:16 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112311 also plucked from the AWC blog - Scott commented - Jim, Three new nonwar ads here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/018948.html What the…? also plucked from the AWC blog -
Scott commented -
Jim, Three new nonwar ads here:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/018948.html

What the…?

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112310 Jim Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:32:24 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112310 I also posted this blog entry over at Antiwar.com - http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-in-fla-primary "Rick," who is in FLA, talked about a Ron Paul ad he is hearing during the primary campaign: "I’ve heard Ron’s ad on WINZ, which runs “progressive talk” like Ed Schultz, Mike Malloy and some of the Air America people. So it’s mostly Dems and lefties listening, certainly mostly anti-war. The ad itself is kind of a generic introduction of Ron’s history as a doctor, his military service, as a congressman, as an upholder of the constitution. As I recall, no mention of the war in Iraq. " I also posted this blog entry over at Antiwar.com - http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-in-fla-primary

“Rick,” who is in FLA, talked about a Ron Paul ad he is hearing during the primary campaign: “I’ve heard Ron’s ad on WINZ, which runs “progressive talk” like Ed Schultz, Mike Malloy and some of the Air America people. So it’s mostly Dems and lefties listening, certainly mostly anti-war. The ad itself is kind of a generic introduction of Ron’s history as a doctor, his military service, as a congressman, as an upholder of the constitution. As I recall, no mention of the war in Iraq. “

]]> By: Jim http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112309 Jim Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:23:08 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112309 At least Fox News shares the good news. At least Fox News shares the good news.

]]> By: Tom Blanton http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112308 Tom Blanton Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:25:24 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112308 Why in the world would the Iraq War be an issue? Since the wonderful surge worked so well, the war has been essentially won. We should be leaving in just few decades. Of course the mainstream media doesn't give you all this good news. The main issue now is which candidate will be able to keep the fantastic Bush economy going - the best economy America has ever had. It probably doesn't matter who the next President is since Bush has done such a wonderful job. Unfortunately, most people just don't know how great everything is because the media never tells them the good news. Why in the world would the Iraq War be an issue? Since the wonderful surge worked so well, the war has been essentially won. We should be leaving in just few decades. Of course the mainstream media doesn’t give you all this good news.

The main issue now is which candidate will be able to keep the fantastic Bush economy going - the best economy America has ever had.

It probably doesn’t matter who the next President is since Bush has done such a wonderful job. Unfortunately, most people just don’t know how great everything is because the media never tells them the good news.

]]> By: Mark Golding http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112307 Mark Golding Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:11:23 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112307 Tribalism has become so sophisticated that it relies heavily on the expertise of technocratic specialists, comprising an army of white coats beavering away in their State/Industry funded research establishments, who produces nothing but military systems of control. The science of social welfare reveals nothing but relative values and virtues that, when compromised by the political expedience of protecting by brute force the interests of a group of people sharing a common identity, become even more abstract and meaningless to those who are targettted as the 'enemy'. This human generation, aka race, has no narrative capable of defining utopia irrespective of which historical or cultural precedent is used as a compass bearing because language is all about domination and control. In art, education, industry, production, culture, history the national perspective is the dominant agenda and no policital counter movement has ever been able to alter the political substance of tribalism - the juggernaut Collective of souls paying into and subscribing to the imperial expansion of their realm, their nation, their principality. I've read a lot of inciteful and stimulating social and political commentary, which has been mainly entertaining, but none have come up with a clue as to how the public devise a plan of action that might rid the world of TRIBALISM. Tribalism has become so sophisticated that it relies heavily on the expertise of technocratic specialists, comprising an army of white coats beavering away in their State/Industry funded research establishments, who produces nothing but military systems of control.
The science of social welfare reveals nothing but relative values and virtues that, when compromised by the political expedience of protecting by brute force the interests of a group of people sharing a common identity, become even more abstract and meaningless to those who are targettted as the ‘enemy’.
This human generation, aka race, has no narrative capable of defining utopia irrespective of which historical or cultural precedent is used as a compass bearing because language is all about domination and control. In art, education, industry, production, culture, history the national perspective is the dominant agenda and no policital counter movement has ever been able to alter the political substance of tribalism - the juggernaut Collective of souls paying into and subscribing to the imperial expansion of their realm, their nation, their principality.
I’ve read a lot of inciteful and stimulating social and political commentary, which has been mainly entertaining, but none have come up with a clue as to how the public devise a plan of action that might rid the world of TRIBALISM.

]]> By: Ryan http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112306 Ryan Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:48:43 +0000 http://jimbovard.com/blog/2008/01/28/antiwar-issue-in-fla-primary/#comment-112306 After the way the RNC and its various allies in the "new" media have gone out of their way to smear Dr. Paul it is my sincere hope that if Paul doesn't get the nomination, that the Stupid party take such huge losses this year that they go the way of the Whigs. They are a totally corrupt institution. After the way the RNC and its various allies in the “new” media have gone out of their way to smear Dr. Paul it is my sincere hope that if Paul doesn’t get the nomination, that the Stupid party take such huge losses this year that they go the way of the Whigs. They are a totally corrupt institution.

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